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By: jwnix (offline) on Wednesday, April 07 2010 @ 12:33 PM EDT  

I am sorry to read of your friend's attack.....how is he doing today?
if willing, would you write more about the circumstances ---what was he doing? was he surprised by the bear? or did he surprise the bear? what kind of bear?

you and your friends are to be commended for educating yourselves with wilderness first aid because of this incident!! imagine how many people could be helped if those in the wilderness were better able to render first aid while awaiting some rescue service!!
a wonderful example of something proactive you did in your community!!thanks for writing here.
and welcome to this forum..... how did you learn of HWF?

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By: jwnix (offline) on Friday, June 04 2010 @ 06:45 PM EDT  

I do think it reasonable to present other viewpoints.......this was published today.

Bear necessities or media overill? How much celebrity attention does one bear cub deserve?: Minnesota scientist says celebrity attention given one cub muddies big picture


Jun. 4--Since being born Jan. 22 with a video camera trained on her, black bear cub Hope has become an Internet sensation, helping raise $248,000 in donations from a captivated public for the Ely, Minn.-based North American Bear Center.

And like many celebrities, Hope's life in the woods around Ely has played out like a soap opera on the Internet.

Her inexperienced mother, Lily, recently abandoned her twice and researcher Lynn Rogers, who first trained the camera on Lily's den, is publicly debating on the center's blog whether to capture the cub or supply her with goat's milk so she can live in the wild. Meanwhile, Hope's welfare is reported on regularly in the Minnesota media.

But is the public getting a full picture of what's going on?

One prominent Minnesota bear scientist thinks not.

Dave Garshelis, bear project leader for the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, is critical of the information Rogers supplies on his website, www.bear.org, and the celebrity attention given to one black bear cub when other species around the world are endangered.

Garshelis said Rogers is misleading people when he reports on his website that it is unusual or mysterious that Lily has abandoned her cub, even after Rogers once brought the cub back to her mother.

It's no mystery, Garshelis said. It's simply Mother Nature in action.

"Lynn says that in 44 years of research, he has never seen this," said Garshelis, who has conducted

bear research in Minnesota since 1983. "But it's very common knowledge among bear researchers that cubs of 3-year-old bears have high mortality."

Garshelis said Minnesota bear sows typically have cubs when they are 4 years old, while 3-year-old sows give birth when they have access to human-supplied food, which has been the case with Lily, who has been fed as part of Rogers' research.

While well-fed young sows might be reproductively ready to have cubs, they are inattentive mothers and can lose their cubs or simply walk away from them, Garshelis said.

Rogers responded to the criticism by saying, "Why mothers lose their cubs after four months of nursing, there is no data on that. We are collecting scientific data on that, and that's why I'm studying this."

It is not the first time Rogers and Garshelis have disagreed.

But their differing views on the intense publicity surrounding Hope and Lily, who has 98,000 Facebook fans, highlights a larger debate about human interactions with black bears.

Garshelis, 57, is part of a scientific community where peer-reviewed papers and hard data collection take precedent. Rogers, 71, has earned a reputation and public following as an expert in bear behavior, and his research involves intimate contact with bears, many of which he names.

While Garshelis believes humans should limit their contact with wild bears, Rogers believes human contact with bears is beneficial to both bears and humans, if done properly.

"We see the world quite differently," acknowledged Garshelis.

Garshelis said he doesn't "see much value" to the publicity surrounding Lily and Hope because Rogers is focusing the public's attention on two individual bears, while American black bears are the most successful bear species in the world.

He said the North American black bear population is about 900,000, and growing at a rate of 2 percent annually. Meanwhile, several species of Asian bears are endangered because of poaching and habitat loss, said Garshelis, who has traveled abroad to participate in research projects on Asian bears.

"The amount of money, more than $200,000, that has been contributed to this particular case is probably more money than is being spent on all the bear projects occurring in Asia," Garshelis said. "None of the people who are contributing to this cause seem particularly worried about that. They're just concerned about whether this cub needs to be fed."

Rogers defended his work, saying it's important to study black bears because they live closest to people and "these are bears that live among us, and we better understand them if we are to co-exist."

They also differ on the issue of feeding bears. Rogers, who often feeds his research bears, said he believes his research shows that humans feeding bears can be a good thing, especially during times when natural foods are less available in the woods. He said that if humans provide "diversionary feed" to draw bears away from homes and campgrounds, they are less likely to cause trouble for people.

"Yes, you can get bears into trouble with food, but you can lead them away from trouble with feeding," he said. "I've been studying bears for 44 years, and I'm the only one looking at diversionary feeding. I've been studying bear behavior with more depth and length than anyone in the world."

Garshelis said he strongly disagrees with Rogers' views on feeding, and he objects that Rogers spreads his pro-feeding message to a large audience on the Internet.

"A big part of me sees this as just entertainment for people," Garshelis said of bear feeding. "That's where Lynn and I depart. He thinks it's good for people to be around bears and good for bears to be around people. If you want to feed bears for research purposes, I don't have a problem with that. I don't like the idea of average citizens feeding bears for their own entertainment."

What's certain is the drama over Hope and Lily has become lucrative for Rogers, who said donations to pay off the debt for the North American Bear Center have been flowing since he put the camera in Lily's den. Since last winter, viewers have donated $248,000 toward a goal of $700,000.

Rogers said he "mortgaged just about everything I own" to start the bear center.

As of Wednesday, Hope was still on her own, and Rogers spelled out his research options on his blog. He said he made the decision to not capture Hope, which would require a special state permit he does not have, even though "we would draw huge crowds and further reduce our debt."

"I think it's better for little Hope to be in the wild, and she has more scientific value to her being in the wild," Rogers said. "We're giving her formula to replace the mother's milk until she can get along on her own."

Garshelis said he believes some people who are following the Hope and Lily saga are overly consumed by it.

"I just got off the phone with a woman who donated $1,000 (to the bear center) and is putting up household equipment on eBay," Garshelis said. "She called me because she heard there were rumors that the DNR was sending snipers up to shoot Hope, which, of course, is not true. She said as soon as this bear was born, she could see in the bear's eyes this would be the Jesus Christ of bears.

"I find this a little hard to understand. For some people, this has become the most important issue in their lives."


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By: Anonymous: woof947 () on Tuesday, June 08 2010 @ 06:22 PM EDT  
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YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, Wyo. -- Yellowstone National Park officials say a year-old male grizzly bear was struck by a vehicle and killed over the weekend.

A passing motorist spotted the bear's carcass on U.S. Highway 191 about 22 miles north of West Yellowstone, Mont. The bear was believed to have been struck Sunday night.

Tracks indicate an adult female and another yearling were in the immediate area of the accident, but apparently were not harmed.

Park officials say the person who hit the bear did not report it.

This was the first grizzly bear death reported in the park this year. A female grizzly that was struck by a vehicle last week in Hayden Valley ran into the backcountry. Members of the park's bear management staff hiked the area Monday afternoon, but found no sign of the sow or her three cubs.

By: jwnix (offline) on Tuesday, June 08 2010 @ 07:19 PM EDT  

no doubt if one hits a bear hard enough to kill it, one is aware that they ran into something!!!

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By: sassyk (offline) on Monday, September 20 2010 @ 01:55 PM EDT  

Here's a video of Rick Mercer helping to tag a mother bear and her 3 cubs, in Algonquin Park in Northern Ontario, Canada. I don't know when this segment was filmed or aired but I just received it, and it may have been posted already. Rick Mercer Report: Bear Tagging

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By: macdoum (offline) on Tuesday, September 21 2010 @ 06:16 PM EDT  

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Here's a video of Rick Mercer helping to tag a mother bear and her 3 cubs, in Algonquin Park in Northern Ontario, Canada. I don't know when this segment was filmed or aired but I just received it, and it may have been posted already. Rick Mercer Report: Bear Tagging

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By: jkr (offline) on Saturday, October 09 2010 @ 09:46 AM EDT  

B.C. mayor wants answers why 60 bears shot
By John Colebourn, Postmedia News-- October 2, 2010

VANCOUVER — The mayor of Castlegar, B.C., said Saturday his town is outraged over the record number of bears killed by conservation officers this year.

Mayor Lawrence Chernoff said the killing of 60 bears this year in the area will be a top priority when the town’s council meets Monday.

“What are we doing killing so many bears?” Chernoff asked. “I am extremely concerned about what we are doing.”

Chernoff’s comments follow the killing of three more bears by conservation officers Friday afternoon.

Betty Offin, of the area’s Bear Aware program, says last year Bear Aware fielded 84 complaints, while so far this year they have had more than 170 calls. Conservation officers in the region claim they only destroy animals that are aggressive and posing a threat to public safety. About a dozen bears in the area were killed in 2009.

Conservation officers did not return calls Saturday afternoon.

Chernoff said the bears appear to be looking for food that is scarce in the hills above the town, and they are concerned about the conflict getting worse as the season progresses and the animals prepare for hibernation.

Last year a bumper huckleberry crop kept the bears from ranging into town looking for food. This year poor fruit crops are making it more difficult.

“We need to sit down with the conservation officers and the RCMP,” said Chernoff. “We are killing these bears. There has to be another solution.”

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By: jannnicemull (offline) on Thursday, January 06 2011 @ 08:32 PM EST  

I hope this is the right place for this if not maybe someone can move it for me well anyway do you remember
Coola & Grinder well they are back on camera I don't know if anyone knew it so I thought I would let you know
They are the first live cam I ever watch and they are the bears that lead me to Hancock in the first place
Beth at BCAW is the sweet thing that found this for us

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